Curse

Tyla · Apr 07, 2008, 11:23 PM // 23:23

The title says what.

I recently seen a Warrior variation with Wary Stance serving as a block stance to get Sliver Armour up.

It given me the idea of a R/E version, too.

Maybe if this will work?

Sliver Armour, Storm Chaster, Stone Striker, "I Am Unstoppable". Ofcourse with a 20% Enchants and the usual gear.

And maybe a block stance like Lightning Reflexes to serve as Sliver Armour's activation?

Thoughts?

P.S -- Possible in Hard Mode, aswell if possible.

natural_Causes · Apr 07, 2008, 11:29 PM // 23:29

Try this
http://www.pvxwiki.com/wiki/Build:R/E_HM_Raptor_Farmer

Antithesis · Apr 07, 2008, 11:30 PM // 23:30

[skill=text]Glyph of Concentration[/skill] will get Sliver Armor up and running. You'll possibly need Tenai's Crystals and Crystal Wave or PvE skills to clear the nestlings as i don't think SA by itself will get the job done.

[edit]...or what natural Causes posted

Witchblade · Apr 07, 2008, 11:34 PM // 23:34

I did Raptor HM all weekend

the Earth thing need a lil practice but it works

i suggest having some HSR and 20%ench ofc
imo, i always take the Boss out first, having escape+stone striker+dwarven stability, casting Magnetic in the middle of the group.
Then blind+attack on the boss before starting the damage part

(no attack=scatter)

Tyla · Apr 07, 2008, 11:35 PM // 23:35

Ah, nice one. I don't often use PvXwiki.

But on the wiki buid, wouldn't it be best to remove Magnetic Aura and put in the Ebon Vanguard ward and Intensity for more KABOOM from Sliver Armour?

Antithesis · Apr 07, 2008, 11:38 PM // 23:38

Given you can only take 3 PvE skills, dropping Air of Superiority for EBSoH and taking Intensity makes sense as long as you target the boss for the Sliver Armor recharge.

Tyla · Apr 07, 2008, 11:41 PM // 23:41

Slash Doh...
Then what would be better?
My Vanguard title is around 6 at the moment, and my SS is maxed.

Besides, the extra energy can go a long way.

Terrokian · Apr 07, 2008, 11:42 PM // 23:42

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Originally Posted by tyla salanari

Ah, nice one. I don't often use PvXwiki.

But on the wiki buid, wouldn't it be best to remove Magnetic Aura and put in the Ebon Vanguard ward and Intensity for more KABOOM from Sliver Armour?

ya know I tried the EV battle Standard and it just didn't work.Maybe I did something wrong.

Antithesis · Apr 07, 2008, 11:45 PM // 23:45

The damage from Sliver Armor will be pretty weak by itself in HM, so AoS is there for the recharge.

I use the E/A Shadow Raptor and the damage output by Sliver > Intensity > EBSoH knocks the boss over within a couple of seconds. I have to pre-cast Sliver before the boss reaches me just to get EBSoH off in time to get the recharge.

I'd personally go with Intensity + EBSoH but I have no experience with the Ranger build.

Tyla · Apr 07, 2008, 11:48 PM // 23:48

It's worth a try. I don't want to get my Ele aaaaaaaaaaaallll the way to Rata Sum just to farm, though...

Antithesis · Apr 07, 2008, 11:50 PM // 23:50

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Originally Posted by tyla salanari

It's worth a try. I don't want to get my Ele aaaaaaaaaaaallll the way to Rata Sum just to farm, though...

Yeah that 1 hour run is a killer

Witchblade · Apr 07, 2008, 11:51 PM // 23:51

Sliver dmg is only 19 without Standard/Intensity

Standard lasts for 20 secs, Intensity 10, though (20 with maxed title ofc)
also recharge is 20 secs vs 45 ...

Shayne Hawke · Apr 08, 2008, 01:24 AM // 01:24

PvX explains very well how to use the build. As for the argument on what to use for more damage...

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Originally Posted by PvX

If you don't have EBSoH, then the order of recommendation for the optional skill is Intensity>Glyph of Elemental Power>Elemental Lord

If you look at each individual skill, you'll see why they have that order. EBSoH adds a base amount of damage, Intensity boosts the percentage of the damage, and the Glyph and Ele Lord both increase the attribute. Of course, your SS and Vanguard ranks may change what would be best to use, but at maxed levels, EBSoH surely outclasses Intensity.

I used this build just fine over the weekend with a Vanguard rank of 5, which brought the damage vs. Raptors to 26 and damage vs. Rekoff to 23.

As far as dropping Magnetic Aura for more damage, it's not recommended, as more interrupts and damage gets through, shortening your lifespan, which isn't good if you're having doubts about this build. It also increases the damage you do, because the more you block, the more Sliver activates.

There are three important things I've learned about using this build:

1. Don't run near the walls, or the raptors might bodyblock you before you grab all agro.

2. As soon as you see the message "Defeat Rekoff Broodmother!", stop immediately, target the closest enemy, and cast Magnetic Aura->Stone Striker->Throw Dirt->Air of Superiority->Sliver Armor->EBSoH (the reason why you don't target Rekoff for Throw Dirt is because by the time she hits you, you're almost dead, so you'll need to start killing things to get health back from AoS). Wait for Rekoff to die. If she runs away, you might have a hard time. Every time your skills recharge, immediately refresh any skills that are blinking or are gone, recast Throw Dirt, and then use the rest of your recharged skills as they run out.

3. Rekoff has a tendency to run away from Sliver if she's hit too much. That may just be because my damage is too low, but if you also experience this, you might have a lot of trouble killing her. I don't know how to change that except to do more damage, but running after her typically doesn't work, as she just runs farther away.

Antithesis · Apr 08, 2008, 02:42 AM // 02:42

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Originally Posted by Shayne Hawke

I don't know how to change that except to do more damage, but running after her typically doesn't work, as she just runs farther away.

Try hitting Rekoff with the staff, it should maintain agro. I've also heard using a martial weapon maintains agro better than a caster weapon under Sliver Armor, I can't verify that.

An E/A casting Glyph of Ele Power > Sliver Armor > Intensity > EBSoH in that order increases damage on each increment. For my E/A with R7 SS and R2 Agent in HM, this ends up as GoEP+SA = 27, GoEP+SA+Int = 33, GoEP+SA+Int+EBSoH = 41 vs nestlings, 20 > 24 > 27 vs Rekoff.

This should work the same for the Ranger, but it'll effectively have 14 Earth rather than 18 during the sequence, resulting in less damage. But it should still be enough, particularly at higher title ranks.

BigDave · Apr 08, 2008, 05:14 AM // 05:14

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Originally Posted by Shayne Hawke

As far as dropping Magnetic Aura for more damage, it's not recommended, as more interrupts and damage gets through, shortening your lifespan, which isn't good if you're having doubts about this build. It also increases the damage you do, because the more you block, the more Sliver activates.

Just to correct you, but Sliver Armor gives out it's damage even if you don't block. It triggers whenever you are the target of a hostile spell or attack. The chance to block it provides is just gravy.

[skill]sliver armor[/skill]

As for the build with a ranger. The only real problem i can see is not getting interrupted. I use an E/Me Sliver farmer with both Mental Block (50% chance to block) and Sliver Armor (52% chance to block) and with 34 raptors going at me i still get hit a LOT. With a 75% block chance you're still going to be getting nailed and if more than a few raptors try their interrupt one will very likely get through. I'm not sure how you can reliably get around the interrupt problem without relying on luck.

masta_yoda · Apr 08, 2008, 05:58 AM // 05:58

maybe r/a with shadow form with radiation field , light of deldrimor and some traps imo and some other pve aoe skills to farm thr nestlings

Witchblade · Apr 08, 2008, 12:18 PM // 12:18

too slow^^ .

Pyro Chronic · Apr 08, 2008, 04:43 PM // 16:43

Can someone plz let me know or just PM me the place where i have to be in what campaign to Raptor farm plz =) and thank you

Mr. Undisclosed · Apr 08, 2008, 06:49 PM // 18:49

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Originally Posted by Pyro Chronic

Can someone plz let me know or just PM me the place where i have to be in what campaign to Raptor farm plz =) and thank you

/facepalm seriously

MasterPatricko · Apr 08, 2008, 06:55 PM // 18:55

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Originally Posted by BigDave

As for the build with a ranger. The only real problem i can see is not getting interrupted. I use an E/Me Sliver farmer with both Mental Block (50% chance to block) and Sliver Armor (52% chance to block) and with 34 raptors going at me i still get hit a LOT. With a 75% block chance you're still going to be getting nailed and if more than a few raptors try their interrupt one will very likely get through. I'm not sure how you can reliably get around the interrupt problem without relying on luck.

Basically you have both magnetic aura (75% block) and escape (75% block) on you. Then you throw dirt for an additional 90% before casting any 1s spells. Interruptions do occur but they are very rare ... throw dirt does get interrupted occasionally.

The run fails if throw dirt gets interrupted or if AoS doesn't give you skill recharge and any +health. Once you have some kills it is very likely AoS will have recharged your skills (note it also can remove the deep wound and bleeding from the boss) and so you can recast the blocking and damage skills at least three times (one recharge from killing the boss).

Rekoff does sometimes try running away, but I don't find its that often. I use a totem axe + earth focus and try to keep attacking all the time ... seems to work. You need to be in melee range of her anyway to use throw dirt.

The build I use is the same as on PvX with EBSoH; the three pve skills are dwarven stability, aura of superiority, and ebon battle standard of honor, all key imo. I don't see where intensity could fit in ...

EDIT: BTW everything I am talking about is in HM.